urhotbabe4 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

thats my dream car right there ;)

GlaciusNLV (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Never driven one have you?

bjjvancouver (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Mazda3 uses the same duratec 4 which is used in, "European" F. Focus; Mazda designed this motor, however the R&D funding came from Ford. Until recently, the motor in Mazda 6 was the same one used in Jag., Lincoln and F. Taurus, as you said, the Fusion for 2010.I merely made some generalization as far as Mazda/Ford, for the clueless here who are ragging on the RX8 & other rotary cars w/out much personal knowledge about them. They get the wind of Ford owning 35% of Mazda, then start...

scify65 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

what about mazda b-series trucks (b 2300 b-3000 b-4000) are just re-badged ford rangers

prod1gy3000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I think Clarkson had a few too many when he called the car 'sensational.' The RX-8 was basically one big dissapointment.

aaronUSAF (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well first off. About mazda. They make ALL thier own cars, granted it is true they share some parts with ford but their unibodies are all original mazda. Ford actually adopts mazda bodies for thier cars in europe(well some like the new fiesta and ka based on the mazda 2 which is a small car much like the fit over seas). The Focus is entierly Ford and the 6 is actually the ford fusion not the tarus. Ford would do well to start using more of mazdas stuff in their cars.

MagicAyrtonforever (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sti sounds good...He says that the rx8 engine sound is good yet with the 350z he says it just drones? hmm, I think that, that V6 is the best sounding 6 ever.. even the 911 sounds like a drainpipe compared to my exhaust note.. mind you I have fitted a K&N induction kit and Fujitsubo Cat back exhaust system to it :D

Charlie819boy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

bjwhatnot,only fool considers himself to be a wiseman but a wiseman knows himself to be a fool. -shakespeare.

Charlie819boy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yea i would never trade in my STI for an rx-8. However, they are a great car to consider because of their relatively low price. i just don't like the torque. the high revs and handling is a plus.

Charlie819boy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

sorry they do. it may not be the important parts like engine internals but hoses, lines, and other minor items do come from ford. Ask any dealership in america. do you really think that as good as the mazdaspeed series and the rx-8 are, do you really think i didn't consider buy them the last time i was in the market for my last car? my payments are done in january and the with the R3 coming out i'm definitely checking that out. don't let your pride cloud your judgment.